tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post6077230831449418540..comments2023-06-13T04:14:50.004-07:00Comments on Ben, KoriAnn, Brighton & Bristol: Letting it Go.Ben, KoriAnn, Brighton & Bristolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17017610114966950984noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-17765887706067349992010-01-27T23:40:04.682-08:002010-01-27T23:40:04.682-08:00I happened upon your blog while looking up informa...I happened upon your blog while looking up information about reversing a circumcision. Unfortunately this is a procedure that is extraordinarily time intensive and painful and thus, a choice my son will have to make when he is an adult, a choice he never should have had to make. I am going to continue with my story.<br /><br />Circumcising my son has so far been the biggest mistake of my life. I regret it everyday, every time I change his diapers, every time I think about the possibility of having another son, every time I think about how I will explain to my son that I allowed, no asked for him to have a piece cut off. When I conceived my son, I was (and still am) a full time college student. While no excuse, I was young, naive, and in over my head. My husband is Jewish, so I had 2000+ years of tradition breathing down my neck. All of the men in my family are circumcised and all the ones in my husbands family are as well, so not circumcising was never really an option proposed to me, much like how you phrased it, just do it with no questions asked. The second the circumcision occurred I realized my mistake but the damage was already done. I took my perfect little boy and chopped a piece of him off. I keep thinking about if and when we ever have another son. I know I will not circumcise him, all of the research I've done, the testimonials from adult men who resent their circumcisions, the risks, I know I can't do that to another little boy. I keep playing the conversation over in my head how I will explain to my oldest son that I allowed his genitals to be mutilated but spared his younger brother. It literally sickens me. Some people will argue that circumcisions are healthier or cleaner, but new research shows this as untrue. The whole world does not circumcise. The western world is disproportionately pro-circumcision, particularly in the US. I find this unusual when contrasted with how most would respond to female circumcision, more widely known as FGM or female genital mutilation. The two are no different. Both are a mutilation of a natural body. The difference is merely geopolitical: male circumcision is largely a western practice and thus more largely accepted, while female circumcision is considered barbaric and largely focused in poor areas of Africa. I suppose my question to you and something you really need to wonder which needs to be put into perspective is this: If you were having a daughter, would you ever contemplate cutting off sections of her genitals for "health reasons"? I mean, if you want to argue the healthier and cleaner route for a little boy, then it would be "cleaner" for a girl to have less folds and therefore less areas for build up and yeast infections, a very common occurrence in little girls. Obviously most would find this argument ridiculous, because it is. I honestly beg you, don't make the same mistake I made. Do some research on your own, research foreskin repair, intactivism, and anti-circumcision.When I was trying to explain to my husband why I was so bothered by this choice I did this to him, I pinched his arm and held the skin then I said imagine if right now I took a knife and cut the tip of this chunk of skin off, imagine the pain of doing that, imagine how unnecessary it would be. For some reason doing that to him made it dawn on him just what circumcision meant. Think of the foreskin like your eyelids. They are there to protect from germs and waste. Would you ever dream of cutting off your eyelids? No, of course not. I honestly hope my comment at least gave you some seed of incentive to really research this decision and not to be like the many people out there that take circumcision as the default choice.Kristiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633761531003214822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-54055184500126322432010-01-24T17:42:55.552-08:002010-01-24T17:42:55.552-08:00I agree with much of what has been said above that...I agree with much of what has been said above that is critical of circumcision. I will mention a few extra thoughts.<br /><br />Infant circumcision without anesthesia is savagely painful and is a weird outcrop of barbarity in American medicine. It is sexual violence and should treated as such. I also do not believe that extant research has done justice to the frequency with which circumcision results in a penis damaged for life. American medical ethics have failed us here.<br /><br />The USA and South Korea are the only countries that circumcise millions of boys for alleged health reasons. In Korea, it's usually done in the teen years. So the USA is the only country where routine neonatal circumcision is the norm. The practice died out in the UK and New Zealand. In Australia and Canada, only 15% and 10% of baby boys are done. Japanese and continental European babies have never been circumcised. If the foreskin is unhealthy or sexually dysfunctional, we would know it by now. In 20-30 years, we will have glaring evidence by simply comparing American and Canadian data. Canada is in transition to becoming an intact nation.<br /><br />The possibility of long term adverse consequences for sexual pleasure and activity has not been researched. Circumcision removes the most erogenous parts of the male body. The resulting damage may not set in until after 40 years of age. There are quite a few adult men who are very unhappy about having been circumcised in infancy. A number of American women who have been intimate with both kinds of men say they definitely prefer intact.<br /><br />Finally, to circumcise a little boy because the parents fear he will be mocked in the locker room by other boys, and in the bedroom by future sex partners, is cowardly in the extreme. To do so would be a craven surrender to the dark forces of shallow conformity, especially if many women enjoy intact more.<br /><br />I warn all readers of this blog: the foreskin is an aspect of human sexuality about which most middle class Americans are sadly ignorant. Americans invented striptease, Playboy, adult films, massage parlors, gay liberation, and internet porn, but cannot look the foreskin and its sexual advantages in the face.RDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05120095550637873753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-64796555396409599712010-01-19T17:00:04.908-08:002010-01-19T17:00:04.908-08:00I never said I was an expert. I just have my opini...I never said I was an expert. I just have my opinion. I do agree that circumcision is a money-making opportunity. <br /><br />This topic is getting boring. Let's talk about vaccine necessity or risk or something. Ooh! I know! Let's talk about vaccines causing autism or not.BaconandBitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023072674071680004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-67696849187032291102010-01-19T06:15:15.225-08:002010-01-19T06:15:15.225-08:00I'm a nurse, also, and that doesn't make m...I'm a nurse, also, and that doesn't make me an expert on why a boy should or shouldn't be circ'd. But as an informed parent I chose not to do so. <br /><br />Ob's do the circ's at our hospital and they did all of my nephew's. ( the little one who had to be redone at 5 and his brother that I forgot to mention, I remember changing his diaper and his penis just disappeared, he now has undescended testes (which probably has nothing to do with the circ, but I found it interesting)I could give you the doctors names (offline) to prove it. Not sure who did my cousin's boys as they were born at a military hospital in North Carolina.<br /><br />Joseph, you are so well informed, thank you for all the information. Dr. Momma you are a great advocate and well informed indeed. Lucy, thank you for the frank and honest comparisons. <br /><br />Circumcision: A cure looking for a disease. As someone said:<br />His body. His rights.tibicherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358997461883232101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-90108969104499208882010-01-18T22:07:53.403-08:002010-01-18T22:07:53.403-08:00Your child is very lucky to have parents who reall...Your child is very lucky to have parents who really care about his well being and who are prepared to listen to different view points before making such a huge decision.<br /><br />I'm not a doctor or a parent, my view point comes from a totally different perspective. I'm a prostitute and therefore have very direct and personal experience with both circumcised and uncircumcised men. <br /><br />In my own experience circumcised men request to have sex without condoms *a lot* more than uncircumcised men. They also need to work a lot harder to achieve orgasm - this makes them rougher than their more receptive and gentler uncircumcised counterparts. In my experience circumcised men have much less sensitivity. <br /><br />When giving hand-jobs I need to address friction problems in circumcised men. With an uncircumcised man the foreskin glides over the penis beautifully, the head of the penis has been protected and remains an internal organ so is very wonderfully receptive to touch. For uncircumcised clients I rely on lubricant to create the a similar sensation. I also find that I can provide a bit more pleasure by using a light silk scarf... so I'm essentially recreating a fake foreskin in silk.<br /><br />I wish you all the best for you and your son. If you decide to go ahead with it you can not change your mind and you would have made an irreversible decision for your son. From my own experience I believe that your boy will have a happier, more pleasurable and more rewarding sex life when he is grown if he remains uncircumcised. I also think that his future wife will be happier too. :-)<br /><br />And hey, if you are wrong, he can always choose to get it cut off himself if he doesn't like it. <br /><br />Best of luck<br />Lucy<br /><br />p.s. I'm in New Zealand, prostitution is legal, and I have never had unprotected sex with a client, just in case you were wondering ;-)Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11301882929526808290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-25511658937858985292010-01-18T18:36:07.763-08:002010-01-18T18:36:07.763-08:00Thank you Megan! Joseph--who the hell do you think...Thank you Megan! Joseph--who the hell do you think you are: These are only suggestions and opinions. No one is asking you or anyone else, espcially a parent to murder this child. It is a circumcision for pete's sake. Although any surgical procedure is a risk. And OB's don't do Circ's any more. How archaic are you with updated helthcare, not an open heart surgeryunless "You" yourself is a physician, you can not criticize another person's opinion and I suppose your uncle is there with you telling you what to say! What a jerk you are!Gaylenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09220029495955656663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-34464976773030332752010-01-18T18:27:32.199-08:002010-01-18T18:27:32.199-08:00Holy crap!!!! You got so many responses!! People h...Holy crap!!!! You got so many responses!! People have way too much time on their hands. <br /><br />Joseph I am a nurse so I know what I am talking about. I have cleaned way too many penises both neonatal and adult for your information. Guys smell much worse than girls. Trust me on this one! As for the locker room comment what I mean is decreased self-esteem. It is true!BaconandBitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023072674071680004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-76851906314372033652010-01-18T12:51:22.308-08:002010-01-18T12:51:22.308-08:00Someone may have already said this and I missed it...Someone may have already said this and I missed it, but, how does being circ'd make it easier to clean your little boy? I couldn't imagine cleaning and taking care of that open wound wrapped in icky stuff (I've seen it many times on relatives and clients babies). When your son is left intact you just wipe a washcloth or wipe over the penis like a finger. NOthing can get into the hole that you need to fuss about. The skin actually protects them. You don't retract or anything, it is much easier than cleaning all the little folds in a daughter.<br /><br />My husband and 2 boys have never had any problems and just wash like anyone when in the shower.or bath. <br />On the other hand, my nephew had to be recirc'd at 5 years old because his first one healed with adhesions and one of my cousins' 27 week old twins got necrotizing fasciitis when he finally had his circ and had to have his penis rebuilt.tibicherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358997461883232101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-66677445786156319982010-01-18T12:36:39.572-08:002010-01-18T12:36:39.572-08:00It is so deeply sad, how parents still think it is...It is so deeply sad, how parents still think it is "their right" to perform painful, unnecessary and harmful body alterations on a boy who cannot give his consent, on behalf of his own body. <br /><br />Circumcision is harmful. Circumcision destroys. Check out this Webpage: (WARNING: very graphic) <br />http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/<br /><br />HIS body, HIS rights. I don´t know why do we still feel like we can walk all over the right of our baby boys to have a complete, natural body; the way it was intended for them. <br /><br />And with male circumcision becoming less and less common in developed countries, odds are your child will NOT thank you for this. He might be much better informed. <br /><br />It is not a decision that you as parents "make" for him - it is one you take away from him.Intactivistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879326152104510139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-48702704106876680972010-01-18T12:17:30.581-08:002010-01-18T12:17:30.581-08:00Please excuse my directness, but submitting your s...Please excuse my directness, but submitting your son for unnessesary surgery of any kind is not a decision you should even be contemplating.<br /><br />Circumcision would permanently alter the look, function and feel of his penis - a boy's/man's most treasured body part.<br /><br />Please do your research and discover for yourself that the health benefits are a total myth. There are only a handful of people around the world who are actively driving the argument for circumcision, and it quickly becomes apparent their motivations are primarily religous, financial or anti-sexual. You will discover the U.S. has gained no health benenit whatsoever from routinely circumcising generations of males when compared to non-circumcising cultures (which is pretty much the rest of the world).<br /><br />Your son will be born perfect. why not just keep him perfect?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07087183629330570406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-3547482134049919762010-01-18T12:14:42.496-08:002010-01-18T12:14:42.496-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07087183629330570406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-38320950372369785042010-01-18T09:33:15.319-08:002010-01-18T09:33:15.319-08:00You and I are in the exact same place with the sam...You and I are in the exact same place with the same decision to be made in the next 7 or so weeks. I found all of this enlightening myself and am now going to research the topic further. :o) Good Luck! (I still can't believe you are old enough to be married and having a baby! It makes me feel really old!--maybe I am!)Aaron, Emily, and Mileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13573214063503289838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-70494819057511834812010-01-18T02:15:25.770-08:002010-01-18T02:15:25.770-08:00I don't know how much information you want. DO...I don't know how much information you want. DOC has a very long paper that discusses every aspect of circumcision and recommends genital integrity or noncircumcision for the highest state of health and wellbeing. That statement is in chapters and the table of contents is at:<br /><br />http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/DOC/statement0.html<br /><br />I would recommend chapters one though six for your attention.<br /><br />You might also be interested in a study from Britain that found that circumcised men are more likely to have gay partners. That study may be viewed at<br /><br />http://www.cirp.org/library/general/dave1/<br /><br />Some bloggers have claimed that the circumcised penis is easier to clean. That is not correct. Urine is a sterile liquid that flushes out the foreskin every time the infant pees. No special care is necessary. There is a complete discussion at:<br /><br />http://www.cirp.org/library/hygiene/<br /><br />Only wash the outside. The first person t to retract your son's foreskin should be your son, which he will do when the foreskin becomes retractable. A study from Denmark found that the mean age of first foreskin retraction is 10 years of age. This is much older than previously believed.<br /><br />I am sure that you will agree that factual information is much better than the myths and speculation that usually passes for information about the foreskin.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03425466360139527967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-3431419274888987702010-01-18T02:13:38.689-08:002010-01-18T02:13:38.689-08:00BTW - on the subject of UTIs (that some love to cl...BTW - on the subject of UTIs (that some love to claim are reduced by circumcision), actually, the opposite is true. When the prepuce (of a baby girl 'hood' or boy 'foreskin') is left alone -- NOT forcibly retracted -- the organ plays the roll of immunological protection and we see a lower rate of UTIs among intact baby boys.<br /><br />This article details this subject: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/how-foreskin-protects-against-uti.html <br /><br />Not that this makes a big difference because girls are 900x more likely to contract a UTI (due to the short urethra), and we would never suggest genital amputation in their cases -- rather, antibiotics work just fine when a UTI occurs.JKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350957701921488680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-71930346378073924762010-01-18T02:05:51.649-08:002010-01-18T02:05:51.649-08:00[CONT from ABOVE]
This is a thread of mothers hon...[CONT from ABOVE]<br /><br />This is a thread of mothers honestly commenting on their own sons' circumcisions: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=112410<br /><br />Mothers who observed their sons circumcisions: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/mothers-observe-sons-circumcision.html<br /><br />Letter's of apology from mothers -<br />My Beautiful Boy, I am Sorry: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/my-beautiful-boy-i-am-sorry.html<br /><br />Heartfelt Christmas Gift: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/heartfelt-christmas-gift-apologizing-to.html<br /><br />A Jewish father's letter to his son: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/jewish-fathers-letter-to-his-son.html<br /><br />This father writes about watching the circumcision of his first son (he kept all future sons intact):<br />http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/circumcision-will-you-make-cut.html<br />http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/stop-male-genital-mutilation-by-derek.html<br /><br />Babies Voice Objections (video) there are links on this page to further studies on pain, brain impact, and PTSD associated with genital cutting of newborns: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/babies-voice-their-objections-to.html<br /><br />Babies Remember Circumcision Pain (also additional article links to U.S. statistics on this page): http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/babies-remember-circumcision-pain.html<br /><br />Why so many men (who were circumcised at birth) are now restoring (foreskin restoration): http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/restoration-uncircumcising-of-men.html<br /><br />How circumcision impacts sex (not that this is a concern for a baby - but men & women are impacted): http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/change-in-how-intercourse-works.html<br />Circumcision & Women's Health: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/07/how-male-circumcision-impacts-women.html<br />One man's letter of his experience: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/circumcision-secret.html<br />Many men voice their experience of circumcision in this lawsuit here: http://www.sueeasy.com/class_action_detail.php?case_id=258<br />This man sued (and won) because of his circumcision: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8szj1jFCWM<br /><br />I have yet to meet a parent who was fully informed on this subject and still opted to cut their baby - you'll likely find it is one area that the more you learn (about circumcision) the worse it is. And the deeper into the research you go on the matter, the more obviously beneficial it is to leave babies as they come into the world. Because I meet with parents regarding this subject on a daily basis, I've met numerous people (both those who already cut their first son(s) and those who never have) who are willing to talk with other parents faced with the same decision. If you'd like to chat with any of them about any specific aspect of this subject, let me know. I'd be happy to link you up with others who have been-there, done-that recently.<br /><br />Take care,<br />Danelle<br /><br /><br />Additional sites for information that may be handy:<br /><br />http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org<br /><br />http://www.nocirc.org<br /><br />http://www.circinfosite.com<br /><br />http://www.circumstitions.com<br /><br />http://www.cirp.org<br /><br />http://www.noharmm.org<br /><br />http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org<br /><br />http://www.mgmbill.org<br /><br />http://www.circumcisionandhiv.com<br /><br />http://www.intactamerica.org<br /><br />http://www.asnatureintended.info<br /><br />http://www.icgi.org<br /><br />http://www.theridgedband.info<br /><br />http://www.notjustskin.org<br /><br />http://www.stopinfantcircumcision.org<br /><br />http://www.sicsociety.org<br /><br />http://www.arclaw.org<br /><br />http://www.norm.org<br /><br />http://www.mothering.comJKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350957701921488680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-20472013859133727042010-01-18T02:05:23.171-08:002010-01-18T02:05:23.171-08:00Hello KoriAnn,
Your son is a lucky one indeed tha...Hello KoriAnn,<br /><br />Your son is a lucky one indeed that you are actively researching this topic in depth before his arrival.<br /><br />It is a subject I have studied (and practiced) within for the past 11 years, and I can assure you that there is a GREAT amount of mis-information out there in the American public (most of which we do not find elsewhere in the world).<br /><br />I'd encourage you to become familiar with the prepuce organ (the organ that is amputated in U.S. style circumcision surgeries) and also become well versed in how the amputation takes place, the risks associated with it, the impact on a newborn, and the health benefits (as well as future sexual benefits) of keeping a baby intact as he was created.<br /><br />A great book on the subject is "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Circumcision" - it was written by 2 doctors who've studied the subject for the past 30+ years and one who is a Jewish pediatrician in the LA area. http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-About-Circumcision-Performed-Unnecessary-Surgery/dp/0446678805/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263807613&sr=8-1<br /><br />The following articles may be of interest to you and I'd be happy to snail-mail you the prepuce & circumcision information pack (8 scholarly articles, 3 dvds) that our doctors and midwives here in D.C. give to pregnant clients. Feel free to email me - peacefulparents@gmail.com<br /><br />If you pour over these articles, you will be better versed in the prepuce and circumcision than 70% of U.S. citizens. Although myths are ubiquitous, there is also a great deal of accurate information and medical research out there - you just have to be willing to dig into it a bit. Care of an intact baby boy is MUCH, much easier than caring for an amputation, surgical wound. There is simply nothing that needs to be done for an intact boy - just as there is nothing to be done for an intact girl. And because the prepuce is the only body organ with immunological properties on the male body (with its own antibodies/antivirals/antibacterials) babies who maintain their genital integrity are healthier as well -- a bonus to make *life* easier for mom. :) <br /><br />The Functions of the Foreskin (a must read): http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/functions-of-foreskin-purposes-of.html<br /><br />Protect Your Intact Son: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/08/protect-your-uncircumcised-son-expert.html<br /><br />Raising Intact Boys: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/raising-intact-sons.html<br /><br />Only Clean What is Seen: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/only-clean-what-is-seen-reversing.html<br /><br />Intact = Do Not Retract: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/09/uti-testing-on-boys-do-not-retract.html<br /><br />About 8 weeks ago a doula in WA was allowed into the surgical room to witness and photograph the circumcision (plastibell method) of a little boy. Here are her images from the procedure: http://www.doulapattiramos.com/2009/11/circumcision-warning-very-graphic.html (note: the plastibell method is the one which is often claimed to be less traumatic for infants to endure)<br /><br />(Not sure if you are planning to breastfeed or not - but these are a couple articles on how circumcision impacts breastfeeding and other bonding issues):<br />The Effects of Circumcision on Breastfeeding: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/effects-of-circumcision-on.html<br />Circumcision Increases Breastfeeding Complications: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/circumcision-leads-to-breastfeeding.html<br /><br />Christianity & Circumcision resources: http://www.drmomma.org/2009/06/information-on-circumcision-for.html<br /><br />[CONT. BELOW]JKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350957701921488680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-21776441657553194652010-01-18T00:17:25.853-08:002010-01-18T00:17:25.853-08:00Remember, your son is designed exactly the way God...Remember, your son is designed exactly the way God/nature intended him to be. Being born with out a foreskin is an actual birth defect called Apothia. I cannot understand why any parent would want to redesign their son to look like he has a birth defect. The human blueprint created the foreskin to protect the meatus. The rigid band is a sphincter only opening to expel urine. It closes tightly after urination is complete. I've seen this in my own intact sons. Its all normal. The prepuce is apart of the immune system. It is there to protect the reproductive organs as it is an integral part of the penis. Being born with a complete set of male genitals is the DEFAULT. It is the "others" who wish to compel you to reduce and alter your son's penis.<br /><br />This reminds me of the Aesop's Fable, "The Fox without a Tail".<br /><br />http://www.planetozkids.com/oban/legends/fox-tail-aesop-fable.htm<br /><br />http://www.circumstitions.com/Fox.html<br /><br />The "locker room" argument doesn't hold water. With the rates being about 50/50, the kid staring or commenting about another dude's penis would be the one teased. Would you cosmetically alter your child's nose or ears so s/he can "fit in" or help build for him a healthy backbone so he grows up with a secure self esteem? I can see kids teasing their peers because they're too short, too tall, too skinny, fat, big ears, big nose... but the penis? Why would children be flaunting their penis with other boys anyways? Thats perverted.Zenbuoyanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674325346588607176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-89491070727459513722010-01-18T00:08:08.991-08:002010-01-18T00:08:08.991-08:00The HIV/AIDS "studies" are flawed and in...The HIV/AIDS "studies" are flawed and inconclusive. It was halted three times because the results were going against the "researchers" hypothesis. Ultimately, their published "findings" backfired. Australia provided a stronger statement against male infant circumcision. Not only this, its now banned from their hospitals. You now have to have an actual medical need that warrants a genital reduction surgery. UK followed a similar suit shortly after.<br /><br />Cancer has been found on the circumcision scar. This is a really rare malady. If this is the leg you want to stand on, then it would be logical to remove the breast buds of all infants because they're at a greater risk of getting breast cancer than cancer of the foreskin and having to remove the foreskin, or cancer on the circumcision scar and having to remove the penis. These "studies" were also found to exclude critical information about the men who had cancer. They were smokers and also promiscuous.<br /><br />There could be tons of "studies" to show benefits of female circumcision. Heck, I could fabricate about a million "studies" that support infant toe removal! There aren't any, because we'd never stand for it.<br /><br />So, after a 100 years of chasing a "benefit" in order to validate an arbitrary genital reduction surgery on healthy infant males here in America, using 'the' scary disease of the day (today being the circ to prevent HIV), people are starting to realize the pattern and see there are no "benefits"!<br /><br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/circumcision-health-benefit-virtually-nil-study-finds/article1427972/<br /><br />Here is the time-line of America's history re: meidcalization of this partial human sacrifice-ritual:<br />http://www.whale.to/a/timeline.htmlZenbuoyanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674325346588607176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-34943565182106179322010-01-18T00:06:23.516-08:002010-01-18T00:06:23.516-08:00I have one son who was circumcised. I wish I was b...I have one son who was circumcised. I wish I was better informed before he was born. I have two other sons and they're intact. I can testify to the fact, a circ wound is much harder to care for than an complete set of male genitals. The foreskin is bonded to the glans. There is no preputial space between the glans and the foreskin. You cannot, and should not ever retract it. The membrane that fuses the prepuce to the glans called Synechia. Its the same material that holds the fingernail to the finger. Its fused because its still developing. Inserting a blunt probe into the fingernail is a nationally recognized form of torture. When the prepuce is torn away from the glans during a circumcision by inserting a blunt probe into the synechia, the result is a raw bloody wound. Its the only wound in which a soiled diaper is its bandage. Unless someone thinks something magical happens when you rub urine and feces on an open wound...<br /><br />If a consenting adult wants to modify his penis the way he sees fit, then he can request adequate pain relief and understand the surgery at hand. Saying "do it when he is a newborn so he won't remember" floods open an unethical gate in which to justify rape because Rohypnol was used since "she won't remember". A previous poster already posted how the lymbic system and the brain is altered for life, never returned to base levels again after an infant experiences such an incredible amount of trauma to the sexual organs (research female infant rape - if you're brave enough) so I'll just add encouragement for you to please consider this.<br /><br />My circ'd son now has meatal stenosis. The Urologist said the meatal stenosis is a result from the circumcision. He also said its common but only in circumcised boys. This is more common than a UTI, intact or circ'd. Those "studies" were flawed because the "researchers" used premature intact infants verses full term circ's infants. Premature infants are more susceptible to a UTI than if he was born at full term because he is constantly being catheterize during NICU. My intact sons have never, not once, have had any problems with their genitals, ages 6 & 2. The good news is, antibiotics have been invented! There are conservative treatments available. Luckily, my intact boys and all of their intact friends and cousins have never had a UTI. I'm a white, educated, upper/middle class American citizen by-the-way. In case you're wondering, since lately there have been articles spewing intact = a non-white-immigrant as apart of their soliciting efforts.<br /><br />Having everything you were born with doesn't equal a ticking time bomb in your pants. 80% of the world's male population is intact and they live healthy long quality lives; Japan and China to name a few.<br /><br /><br />Yes, pray about it.<br />http://www.stopcirc.com/christian.htmlZenbuoyanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674325346588607176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-48302557364147976482010-01-17T23:40:25.355-08:002010-01-17T23:40:25.355-08:00This is my final post on the subject:
Ask yoursel...This is my final post on the subject:<br /><br />Ask yourself a few questions.<br /><br />How is circumcision necessary for a healthy newborn? What is the reason he needs to undergo this needless pain? Why does he have to endure the burn of urine and feces on a needless wound? Why does he need to live out the rest of his life with half an organ?<br /><br />Will your child be born sick? Is the foreskin a disease? Is it some sort of deformity, some sort of birth defect that somehow all boys are born with? How come people in Europe don't have all the famed "problems" the users on here talk about?<br /><br />When do you give your child a heart transplant? When do you have his appendix taken out? Is it when or BEFORE there are actual medical problems?<br /><br />If there is no medical situation that calls for your child's circumcision, how is it that doctors are performing infant circumcision, let alone pretend like they can ask you to weigh in on the matter?<br /><br />Does it not seem the least bit odd that a doctor seems to be entitled to a free stipend at the expense of healthy, non-consenting individuals?<br /><br />Shouldn't the DOCTOR know better than the parent? Isn't to know HIS JOB?<br /><br />WHY then, is a doctor even coming to ask you whether you think this will be necessary or not?<br /><br />Since when are a patient's parents EVER involved in the diagnosis of a problem to determine the necessity of a procedure?<br /><br />That you as a parent are even having to face this "decision" is something of a travesty.<br /><br />In reality, there is no choice but to leave your child be.<br /><br />No, you will have no trouble cleaning him. No, you will not have to retract his foreskin. Yes, it will be as easy as taking care of a girl, if not easier.<br /><br />Circumcision is a violation of basic human rights. I know you want the best for your child, but don't be mislead into allowing needless mutilative abuse to happen to him.<br /><br />Parent's are no more entitled to demand worthless procedures on their boys than they are no their girls.<br /><br />Do the RIGHT thing. Let your son keep his whole body. It his body. HIS rights.<br /><br />Peace.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-66494090214352858182010-01-17T23:32:24.201-08:002010-01-17T23:32:24.201-08:00The "Circumcision" user is a troll that ...The "Circumcision" user is a troll that likes to feed off of the insecurities of parents.<br /><br />Watch out for users that recommend circinfo dot net and medi-circ; the user is usually none other than the author of those sites, Brian Morris.<br /><br />He rarely has anything to say except cut and paste from his site, which is old and out-dated circumcision propaganda.<br /><br />The UTI myth has been long debunked, and there are studies in Israel that the opposite is true: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1043807.html<br /><br />Penile cancer is rare, SO rare, that actually more babies die from circumcision than penile cancer. The excuse MAY be true, but it wears itself out.<br /><br />Check out what the American Cancer Society has to say on circumcision as a preventative measure for penile cancer:<br /><br />"In the past, circumcision has been suggested as a way to prevent penile cancer. This was based on studies that reported much lower penile cancer rates among circumcised men than among uncircumcised men. But most researchers now believe those studies were flawed because they failed to consider other risk factors, such as smoking, personal hygiene, and the number of sexual partners."<br /><br />http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_Can_penile_cancer_be_prevented_35.asp?rnav=cri<br /><br />Contrary to his advice, circumcision, does not, cannot prevent HIV, or any other STD, especially in infants where the risk for contracting ANY STD at all is ablsolute zero.<br /><br />There are some "studies" that show circumcision "might" prevent SOME STDs, but they are usually written by biased doctors who have been trying to legitimize circumcision as a medical practice for years, and even they will tell you that circumcised or not, a man has to wear a condom if he wants any real protection.<br /><br />Don't go to those websites; they're all biased and written by none other than him. "Circumcision" DARE not expose his real name. Right, Brian Morris?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-73029009247725810242010-01-17T23:32:02.142-08:002010-01-17T23:32:02.142-08:00M&M: "Two words: locker room. Seriously t...M&M: "Two words: locker room. Seriously though, he might get made fun of. I know that sounds stupid but it is true."<br /><br />Question. Since when was conformity ever a medical reason to circumcise your child? What if your child turns out to be a brunette and he goes to a school full of blondes? Would you bleach his hair?<br /><br />And really. Who takes a shower in the locker room anymore? Guys cover up because they're afraid of gay implications. Lockerroom days are a thing of the past.<br /><br />"Also, I agree with everyone else that it will be easier to clean and less likely for infection."<br /><br />Yeah. Really Because you have sooo much experience with intact penises? Read above. This is NOT true.<br /><br />"Though, he will scream when he is circumcised so just be prepared for that if you decide to do it. But, will he remember it? Nope."<br /><br />And, of course, since you do it to him when he "can't remember," that makes it SOOO much better.<br /><br />Almost like knocking out a girl before you rape her.<br /><br />Ruth: "Another note as well, on my oldest the anesthesia did not work ,he had an allergic reaction that actually made the pain worse. "<br /><br />Even if it did work, what is the merit of making an unnecessary procedure painless?<br /><br />"If you choose to do a circ, I would recommend the plastic ring and also looking into your and your husband's family history of medicine allergies."<br /><br />Uh, I would NOT recommend the plastibell.<br /><br />Not if you don't want your son to end up looking like THIS.<br /><br />WARNING: GRAPHIC<br /><br />http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched4ga.html<br /><br />Actually, I would recommend you not do it at ALL.<br /><br />It is a silly, stupid idea to be lollygagging over the best way to perform a worthless procedure that carries the risk of infection, ablation and even DEATH.<br /><br />"Ultimately you have to make your own decision because all of the advice out there in favor also has it's opposite for the group not in favor. IT is lees sensitive, it is more, it is hard to stay clean, it isn't any harder...it goes on."<br /><br />Ultimately, why do parents have to make a "decision" at all? Are children born sick? Is the foreskin a cancerous tumor that must be removed or the child will die? Is it a deformity that somehow every child is born with? What is it?<br /><br />If doctors cannot even be performing this, how can they even ask parents to make this "decision?"Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-45343674669767979592010-01-17T23:31:30.731-08:002010-01-17T23:31:30.731-08:00The Melo Family: "It's true that it is ea...The Melo Family: "It's true that it is easier to clean if it is circumsized."<br /><br />And you would know this because...<br /><br />"There is more risk for infection."<br /><br />"More risk" for WHAT kind of "infection?" Is it more than girls? Because girls get more UTIs than boys, whether they be circumcised or not. Also, UTIs are easily treated with anti-biotics. WHY would it make sense for a doctor to cut off part of your baby's penis to avoid a perfectly preventable and treatable condition?<br /><br />Incidentally, studies in ISRAEL of all places, show that circumcision UPS UTIs. That "circumcision protects against infection" is blatant misinformation used to sell you a worthless procedure on your child.<br /><br />http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1043807.html<br /><br />"Little boys aren't responsible enough to clean themselves in my opinion."<br /><br />Right, but little girls are?<br /><br />"With uncirced you have to pull the skin back every time to clean it when you change the diaper. Same with the baths."<br /><br />THIS IS ABSOLUTE MISINFORMATION.<br /><br />A normal penis needs no more care than a normal vagina. The foreskin is meant to stay attached to the head of the penis until puberty. The foreskin is fused to the head of the penis at birth like a nail to a finger, which is why, before a circumcision, a doctor has to take a blunt object and forcefully separate the skin. Forcefully retracting the foreskin in a child with a normal penis is akin to taking pliers and yanking out the fingernails to "clean them." This is absolutely unnecessary, and it is against the law. Doctors who give this "advice" are wrong, and those who forcefully retract a son's foreskin can be taken to court. Some people on here should get educated.<br /><br />"When you do circ there is a period of time when you circ that you have to maintain it so that it doesn't reattach but when that is over it is much easier for mom and baby and the child when he gets older."<br /><br />Not to mention that until the boy heals, his penis will be covered in feces and urine. No, the head of the penis will be covered in feces and urine until the boy learns to potty train.<br /><br />"There are also other postivies in my eyes like the senstivity of the penis when it is uncircumsized. I would feel bad for his wife....LOL!"<br /><br />Right. So we should circumcise boys so that his PARTNER feels better eh?<br /><br />Would it be OK to circumcise girls so that boys with a less sensitive penis could feel grip?<br /><br />I mean, think about the pedophilic implications here. Is the mother going to be having sex with the child?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-11421528828940414692010-01-17T23:30:59.290-08:002010-01-17T23:30:59.290-08:00Samantha: "I personally chose to have Gray ci...Samantha: "I personally chose to have Gray circ'd because it is easier to clean, and it actually lowers the chance of some diseases/infections/cancers."<br /><br />How do you know, Samantha, that circumcising a child makes him "easier to keep clean?" How does ANYONE on this thread know this?<br /><br />Sam, what diseases/infections/cancers are newborns at risk for? How does it make sense that every boy is born with a foreskin?<br /><br />"And as a nurse, I have seen a patient that was uncircumsized that did not clean adequately, and let's just say, the image stuck with me!"<br /><br />There's that friend again... tell me Samantha, have you ever seen a woman who didn't clean adequately? What do you tell your female patients when their vulva stinks? What an absolute sexist remark.<br /><br />"I would advise, however, that you do your research on the doctor doing the circ -- make sure he/she has had ample experience doing them, and a good rate of success/good outcomes."<br /><br />If your doctor performs circumcisions, you need to run, run away from him. Doctors have absolutely no reason to be circumcising healthy infants. Doctors that charge money to perform circumcisions in children are committing medical fraud.<br /><br />"Because I have also, as a nurse, seen some bad circ's."<br /><br />As a nurse, you need to be educated in basic human anatomy.<br /><br />"But I personally think it is a good decision to have it done! That said, only YOU know what is best for YOUR baby! Whatever decision you make will be the right one for him."<br /><br />Shouldn't the DOCTOR know better than a parent, seeing as they went to school for 12 years or so?<br /><br />Do readers in here think it's not the least bit odd that for everything else, doctors are experts, but for circumcision, all of a sudden they hand their PhD plaque over to parents?<br /><br />How is that even professional?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3654165027770477977.post-47423982608071111012010-01-17T23:29:52.048-08:002010-01-17T23:29:52.048-08:00Gaylene: "And it really is better for you to ...Gaylene: "And it really is better for you to do it when they are young and don't remember."<br /><br />Does it make it better that you mutilate a child when he doesn't remember, or worse?<br /><br />Maybe it's good if children are molested as infants too then eh? That way they don't remember. If it's wrong, it's wrong.<br /><br />"Diaper changing is easier with a "C"<br /><br />HOW is it "easier" than a "C?" It is no different than changing a girl. You don't need Q-tips to clean the inside of the vagina. There is no reason to rip of his skin because it is meant to stay there until puberty. Just like the hymen.<br /><br />"Just as a matter of information--We had an uncle that had a circumcision at an advanced age and the longer you or the child waits to have one, the more painful it becomes for the individual! I definitley think that would be more traumatizing."<br /><br />For real, Gaylene? It seems everyone has that uncle or friend of a friend who "had to have it done."<br /><br />I know tons of people who had to have their gall bladder, appendix out, etc. at a later age. I had an uncle who had to have his toes removed because he had diabetes and he developed hammertoe.<br /><br />Maybe we should remove all of these in children too?<br /><br />The assumption here is, a child will most definitely need to be circumcised. That is not true. Circumcision is rarely needed in adults. We just happen to live in a circumcising country, where doctors indicate circumcision for EVERYTHING. NOT the case everywhere else in the world.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289402956369911923noreply@blogger.com